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From: Steve McIntyre Sent: March 17, 2004 12:08 AM To: Ashman, Dinah Subject: Fw: Nature corrigendum Mann02478
Dear Dinah, I have attached the enclosed email as a word document, which may be easier to read. Regards, Steve McIntyre I apologize for the length of this email, but
sometimes it’s hard to write short. Regardless of the disposition of
the comments below, we appreciate the steps which Nature has already
taken and the ongoing consideration. The following observations are sent
to you on the basis that it’s easier to deal with all pertinent issues
while the file is open. To expedite matters, I have taken the liberty of
attaching a list of confirmations and clarifications which I believe to
be required, which you may use as you see fit. Listing of Series
1.
The original SI lists 61 Vaganov series as being used, but, in
fact, only 60 series were used, with series 55 being excluded. This is
not mentioned in the correction, but should be. This presumably has a
different explanation than the exclusion of the ITRDB series. The SI
does not identify the Vaganov series. 2.
The original SI identified 10 Stahle SWM sites; the site for the
two “unpublished” Stahle SWM series is not identified in the
Corrigendum. It needs to be identified, especially since Item 6 in the
response letter by Prof. Mann forwarded to me by Heike Langenburg on
Feb. 27, 2004 (the Response Letter) states that there is substantial
duplication of values in several SWM series, indicating the possibility
of duplicated series. 3.
The Response Letter stated that one of the excluded series,
“arge030”, was excluded because a more recent and more
conservatively standardized replacement series was available
“directly” from a colleague. In the South American network involved,
it is the more recent series that have been excluded and the older
series which have been used. We are unable to identify the “more
recent” series used to replace this series. 4.
We strongly urge that you ensure that the SI attached to
the correction of these discrepancies shows the application of the
criteria listed in the asterisked explanation for the discrepancies. In
particular, these are the criteria listed by Professor Mann in ref. 5 or his previous
response: (1)
the availability of “reliable information” on the methods
used to remove biological trend; (2)
the median length of the individual segments used to build
the chronology, showing that this exceeds 150 years; (3)
The mean correlation of these individual segments with the
site chronology, showing that these exceed 0.5; (4)
The first year of the chronology, showing that this was
before AD 1626, (5)
The number of segments by 1680, showing at least 8; (6)
The last year of the chronology, showing that this was after
1970; (7)
The number of segments after 1960, showing that this was at
least 8 segments; (8) Whether the series was deleted because a replacement series was available “directly” from a colleague. If this criterion is used, full particulars on the replacement series should be provided including all of the information listed in 1-7 above, together with evidence showing that the replacement series was more “conservatively” detrended. We
tested out these rules on Professor Mann’s data, and found numerous
examples where they break down. For instance, site cana153, a Jacoby
treeline series, exhibited extremely low correlations (<0.045)
between individual segments and the site chronology, violating criterion
(3). We made an
inquiry about the low
correlations to the
originating author, Professor Rosanne
d’Arrigo. She discovered
thereupon that the
wrong site chronology had
been published and promptly
notified WDCP to withdraw the series.
It is hard
to see how the above quality
control rules could have
been applied
as claimed by Professor Mann, as this problem would surely have come to
light sooner.
Based on our investigation, regarding the MBH data
archive, relative to the criteria set out above: ·
39 series had not commenced by 1626; ·
22 sites did not have 8 trees by 1680; ·
171 sites had less than 0.5 mean correlation of the
individual trees with the site chronology.
Additional minor corrections - comments 1.
The original SI attributed the long instrumental series referred
to in minor correction (2) to Bradley and Jones (1993). Without
reference to the original citation, the nature of the correction is not
clear. Also, the citation as it stands does not identify the NOAA
Climate Data centre series used – is it GHCN v1, GHCN v2 or some other
iteration. The MBH response letter states “We have updated this
reference with a description of the specific source of the long
instrumental data series and means by which they were gridded, in the
revised supplementary information.” A little more detail in the line
item in the Corrigendum would be helpful. 2.
The language in minor correction (3) is very unclear. The
original SI states that the “earliest available” year for the
Central Europe series is 1550, while the earliest available year in the
cited publication is 1525. The first year actually used in MBH98 is 1550
– which is at odds with the language of this item. I would suggest
language like: “The start year for the Central Europe series of ref. 1
was 1550, applying the version used in ref. 2, while the start year for
the Central Europe series in the reference cited in the original SI was
1525.” 3.
This has several errors in a very short space. The original SI
listed earlywood widths and latewood widths (not maximum density). Ref.
4, now provided as the supposedly correct citation for the SWM series,
does not list any latewood width or maximum density series, but does
list earlywood width and total width series. The sites listed in Ref 4.
do not coincide with the sites listed in the original SI, with some of
the sites listed in the original SI not listed in Ref. 4 and some sites
listed in Ref. 4 not listed in the original SI. This needs to be dealt
with properly. Finally, as discussed in prior correspondence, several
series in this dataset have identical values in the early years. The
sites for these series need to be clearly identified and any duplication
corrected. 4.
Jacoby et al, use 11 northern treeline sites, not 12 as referred
to here. Other
unlisted data corrigenda 1.
Although (3) above discusses the correction for the “earliest
available” start year for Central Europe, there is a similar issue for
Central England, not referred to. The original SI stated that the
“earliest available” year was 1730, while the earliest year in the
citation was 1659. This should also be clarified along the lines of the
language suggested above. 2.
There is a similar issue for the series chin004, in which the
earliest year in the citation is 2 years earlier than the first year
used in MBH98 and a similar clarification should be made. 3.
There are many geographical errors in the original SI in
respect to the grid cell locations of the long instrumental series,
especially in the precipitation series. The Paris France precipitation
series is incorrectly located in a New England grid cell. These are
known to Mann et al., are not listed in the errata, but should be
identified and dealt with at this time. 4.
The geographical locations of the Central Greenland stack in
the original SI is incorrect. 5.
The geographical locations of the “npatagonia” and
“cpatagonia” series are reversed in the versions used at the FTP
site. 6.
We believe that that there are errors in the listing of the
total number of indicators stated in Nature to have been used on an
interval-by-interval basis. For example, from the FTP site information,
it appears that 3 non-principal component series start in the AD1450
interval; a Vaganov PC1 is also stated in the SI to have commenced in
this interval, making 4 in total, but the total number of indicators is
shown as increasing only by 3. Also, MBH have stated that 159 series
were used; we are unable to replicate this number with the number of
indicators stated in Nature to have been used on an interval-by-interval
basis. I suggest that you ask Prof. Mann to check his calculations on
the number of indicators used and to include any required corrections at
this time. Methodological
corrigenda In his prior response and in other recent comments,
Prof. Mann has referred to a number of corrections to the methodology
description, which have not been listed in the corrigendum (and which
would seem to require an explicit reference.)
These include the following corrections to existing
methodological descriptions: 1.
MBH’s response letter stated: “Small gaps in the instrumental
record we used (an older CRU surface temperature dataset which goes back
to 1856) were filled by linear interpolation, as described in our
revised supplementary information.” This is actually a pretty material
issue. The original methodological description in MBH98 stated that
“conventional” principal components were used – which require no
missing data. There is actually a lot of missing data in the CRU
dataset. The gaps are not necessarily small. For example, in the current
CRU version, 4 grid cells used in MBH98 are completely empty. While the
versions are different and we do not presently have access to the CRU
version in MBH98, we would be very surprised if there were only “small
gaps” in these data cells in the older version and no data at all in
the current version. Thus, MBH98 has to have some methodology to deal
with large gaps. Since the original description was not fully accurate,
we think that this deserves at least a line item in the corrigendum and
hopefully comprehensive explanation in the revised SI, as indicated in
the MBH response letter. 2.
MBH98 stated that for the temperature data
“the mean was removed, and the series was normalized by its
standard deviation”. Recently, Mann et al. stated that they used
“de-trended gridpoint standard deviations” to normalize
temperature data. Again, in view of the inaccurate prior description, a
line item in the Corrigendum would appear to be warranted. 3.
Mann et al. recently stated that 159 series were used in MBH98
calculations. The figure of 159 series is not itself stated in
Nature or the SI thereto, where a total of 112 indicators is mentioned.
This is an acutely important point, as the failure to identify the
correct number of series means that, before now, researchers could not
have replicated the MBH98 results. This surely merits a separate line
item in the corrigendum. 4.
Related to 3 above, MBH changed rosters of tree rings in certain
calculation intervals. The SI needs to show the exact number of
principal components retained in each network in each period. There is
no such information in MBH98. Despite careful study of MBH98 and
specific requests to Prof. Mann, we were unable to discern this
methodology within the MBH98 descriptions and strongly believe that it
warrants a line item in the Corrigendum. (Also Prof. Mann has made
statements recently that the principal components were re-calculated for
every index calculation interval – which, on the basis of the FTP
site, was not the case. While these recent statements are not the
responsibility of Nature, clarification is much needed on this matter.) 5.
Mann et al. state in their response letter that “Precise
details regarding how the [tree ring data] data were standardized are
provided in the revised supplementary information”. This acknowledges
that such information was not provided in MBH98 or the SI thereto. Since
the “standardization” procedures carried out for the tree ring
principal component calculations are far from conventional and were
undisclosed, a separate line item is likewise indicated. Supplementary
Information We
originally requested the following information in connection with MBH98: (1)
the identity of the 159 series now said to be used in MBH98
calculations; (2)
identification of
the PC proxy rosters (and sub-directory calls) on a period-by-period
basis.; (3)
residual series, together with programs used in the
derivation of residuals and confidence intervals in MBH98; (4)
programs used in MBH98 calculations; Items (1) and (2) were referred to above, but (3)
is important for the full consideration of the stepwise methods of
MBH98, especially for the AD1400 interval. We believe that the following
information should be included in the new SI: 1.
the results of the application of the quality control criteria
set out in ref. 5, showing the compliance of the various series with
each listed criterion; 2.
the standardization information used by the authors in 1997 to
distinguish between retained and excluded series; 3.
the identity of the 159 series now said to be used in MBH98
calculations; 4.
identification of the number of principal component series used
in each interval for each of the 6 tree ring networks; 5.
the results of each of the stepwise calculations – in
particular, the AD1400 step, including residuals; 6.
the original CRU dataset used in MBH98 – both for the entire
grid and for the NH average in the verification period; 7.
the correct geographic locations of the various instrumental
temperature and precipitation series; These are
all required to carry out replication of the procedures in MBH98. Rather
than continuing ongoing requests and disputes over the provision of this
data, it makes far more sense to provide the data in the revised SI in a
systematic basis. We have also requested that the MBH98 programs be
included in the SI. A reviewer of an article which we submitted on this
topic to Nature stated that “there is a wide margin of uncertainty
that could be resolved only by looking in detail into the whole data set
and the whole software used by the authors.” In our revision, we plan
to include all the software which we used in out reconstruction in order
to facilitate this reconciliation. It would make a lot of sense for Mann
et al. to do the same. Conclusion
Under the circumstances, I suggest that you ask
Prof. Mann to warrant that, to the best of his knowledge, the corrigenda
are complete. While we have examined his data set diligently and have
identified a number of discrepancies, the issuance of a correction, for
an erratum known to the authors, should not be dependent on whether we
have brought it to your attention.
Again, we appreciate your consideration and
apologise for the length of these comments, but we could see no obvious
way of shortening them. For some of the methodological descriptions
which we have referred to, we require them for our study of MBH98. I have taken the liberty of re-stating the above
comments in the form of a draft letter to Professor Mann, which you may
use or disregard as you see fit. List of Confirmations for Prof. Mann 1.
Confirm whether 61 Vaganov series were used in your calculations
as stated in the original SI. (We have been advised that series 55 was
not used.) If not, please amend the list of (34) series and the
asterisked explanation. 2.
Please include identification of the 61 Vaganov series. 3.
Please identify the “more recent” replacement series provided
directly from a colleague used as a replacement series for arge030, as
described in your Response Letter. 4.
Confirm that the asterisked explanation for exclusion of listed
series is a complete explanation, including application to series
arge030. 5.
Provide an identification of the location of the two unpublished
Stahle/SWM series, which were used but not listed. In this connection,
please confirm that the duplication of early values, acknowledged in
Item 7 of your Response Letter, are not errata in the unpublished data. 6. Please ensure that the SI attached to the correction of the listing discrepancies completely shows the application of the criteria listed in the asterisked explanation for the discrepancies, including, in particular, the following criteria listed in the Response Letter (as stated in ref. 5) or his previous response: 1)
the availability of “reliable information” on the methods
used to remove biological trend; 2)
the median length of the individual segments used to build the
chronology, showing that this exceeds 150 years; 3)
The mean correlation of these individual segments with the site
chronology, showing that these exceed 0.5; 4)
The first year of the chronology, showing that this was before AD
1626, 5)
The number of segments by 1680, showing at least 8; 6)
The last year of the chronology, showing that this was after
1970; 7)
The number of segments after 1960, showing that this was at least
8 segments; 8)
Whether the series was deleted because a replacement series was
available “directly” from a colleague. If this criterion is used,
full particulars on the replacement series should be provided including
all of the information listed in 1-7 above, together with evidence
showing that the replacement series was more “conservatively”
detrended. 7.
In the Corrigendum minor correction (2), please identify the
exact NOAA data set used, together with the data set stated to have been
used in the original citation. 8.
Please clarify Corrigendum minor correction (3) along the
following lines: “The start year for the Central Europe series of ref.
1 was 1550 (not 1525 as stated in the Corrigendum), applying the version
used in ref. 2, while the start year for the Central Europe series in
the reference cited in the original SI was 1525.” 9.
Please provide a similar correction in respect to the Central
England series and for the chin004 series, if applicable. 10.
Please confirm that SWM series used in MBH98 included maximum
density and latewood width series, as stated in the Corrigendum, rather
than earlywood width and latewood width series as stated in the original
SI. If the SWM sites listed in the revised SI differ from the sites
listed in the original SI, then please include a comment to this effect
in the Corrigendum. If this is not the case, please confirm that all the
sites listed in the SI are listed in the amended citation (ref. 4) and
conversely, that all the series listed in ref. 4 are included in the SI.
We are advised that, notwithstanding the Corrigendum, ref. 4 does not
contain any references to maximum density or latewood widths. Would you
please confirm that ref. 4 does in fact report on maximum density and
latewood widths, as stated in the Corrigendum. 11.
Would you please confirm that there are no geographical errors in
the original listing of instrumental or other series. If there are any
such errors, would you please ensure that there is a reference in the
Corrigendum to these errata. 12.
Would you please confirm that the total number of indicators in
the original article and SI on an interval-by-interval basis are
correct. If not, would you please include an item in the Corrigendum. 13.
For methodological description items discussed in the revised SI,
would you please confirm that none of the procedures described are
inconsistent with the description in MBH98 and that MBH98 contained no
material omissions in its methodological description. If there were any
inaccuracies or material omissions in MBH98, would you please insert a
line item in the Corrigendum for each such item.
Without limiting this question, we ask for specific confirmation
below on several methodological issues brought to our attention. 14.
For temperature data, would you please confirm that in your
calculations “the mean was removed, and the series was normalized by
its standard deviation”. If the series was in fact normalized by its
detrended standard deviation, would you please include an appropriate
line item in the Corrigendum. 15.
For the calculation of temperature principal components, would
you please define what is a “small gap” as mentioned in your
Response Letter. Would you please confirm the comment in your Response
Letter that only “small gaps” as so defined have been interpolated.
We suggest a line item in the Corrigendum disclosing the interpolation
procedure. 16.
Would you please advise us whether 159 series were used in MBH98
calculations. If this is the case, would you please include a line item
in the Corrigendum referring to this and sufficient information in the
SI that the 159 series can be completely identified. 17.
Would you please confirm that the revised methodological
description in the new SI includes an explanation of how the number of
principal component series retained in each network for each interval
are determined. 18.
Would you please confirm that the new SI enables the
determination of the 251 series mentioned in ref. 4 and also the 415
series referred to in question 6 of your Response Letter. 19.
Would you please confirm that the new SI describes the procedure
used to standardize tree ring data. If this procedure is material,
please include a reference in a line item pursuant to (12) above. 20.
Would you please confirm that, (a) to your knowledge, there are
no remaining errata in data or data citations in MBH98 which have not
been disclosed; (b) to your knowledge, the methodological description
contained in the new SI is sufficient to enable replication of your
results, using the data provided in the new SI or cited from public
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